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Jenny F.'s avatar

I have been volunteering with ICAN, since they are the only organization that helped me with my VBAC that wasn't trying to sell me something. And of course they are not sophisticated compared to all those sick little OB influencers or FBS, and much diminished in power post COVID (picketing hospitals that ban vaginal birth seems like a beautiful dream now), but we get on zoom and we talk about our bodies and there's nothing like it. Nothing. I wish more women knew about ICAN.

You mention learning from a grandma. The grandmas I know had twilight sleep and their breasts forcibly dried up. My mom and my female relatives had episiotomies and cesareans. There are no female elders on either side of my family with birth wisdom to share. None. I've had to piece things together while squatting in what felt like a pile of ruins.

I have a daughter and believe I may have another one day. I want to do doula training for them, so that someday I will have something intelligible to say to them, or their friends. If I can do nothing else in this world, I can do that.

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Kaitlin Pearl Coghill's avatar

Thank you for writing such a thoughtful and personal piece, Emily. The story aspect has been a major part of my reflections on all that is happening in the freebirth world. It's always bothered me that the women who shared their birth stories with Emilee were not compensated for what they gave her, nor were they truly respected by her. I'm sorry to hear that she disrespected you as well during your interview. You deserved better than that. Far better.

I worked for Emilee S. as the Free Birth Society social media manager in 2023. This was before the "midwifery" school was started but right around the time everything began to take a turn for the worse. All but one woman that I worked alongside at that time has since left the brand. I remember Emilee complaining during a team Zoom meeting about how "boring" all of the birth stories were, and how tired she was of doing the podcast. She continued on, saying that she had to keep doing it because it's obviously what draws people in to the FBS brand, but she was not pleased about it.

There are many more examples I have of how little she values the women in her community and the disgusting terminology she uses to describe them. I'm working on writing a piece about it but have had to pause multiple times to recenter myself and make sure I'm staying aligned with my own storytelling values. The piece I recently published about FBS speaks to the storytelling process in these circumstances where trauma and vulnerability are involved. There are many women staying silent about their experiences with Emilee and Yolande because it's scary to make yourself vulnerable, especially if you worked for the women being discussed and have seen the way they behave when their audience isn't watching.

My personal writing experience has been a lot of back and forth about whether or not I'd spend the time diving into the topic. I was embarrassed about working for the brand and my ego did NOT want anyone to know about my proximity to FBS. I eventually felt that I had a personal responsibility to share what I know because a lot of my marketing copy resulted in people registering for the RBK school and attending the Matriarch Rising Festival. In order to undo that, I feel that I must write the truth about FBS. This doesn't mean I think everyone involved has the same obligation, but I know this to be what's required for my own journey through this unraveling.

Like you, I've written a variety of pieces over the years about my thoughts on the commodification of birth and motherhood, as well as the questionable practices of Emilee and Yolande. I never felt ready to publish them publicly because I didn't want to experience any more negativity than I already had while connected to FBS. The more inspiring pieces to write have been those that concern themselves with the solutions I've come up with regarding accessible and thorough childbirth education and our responsibility as mothers to be the ones to teach our children about birth. I'm still inspired by these pieces and look forward to making use of them in the coming months. This particular piece you wrote and published today has made me feel even more confident in my choice to write about the FBS situation and what the future holds for those of us who choose to write about birth and motherhood. I thank you very much for this.

At the root of this reckoning is the simple truth that women's wisdom and knowledge were stolen from them a long time ago (twilight birth is a great example of just how far women were misled), and it's a complete shame that women are now selling that stolen, sacred wisdom back to one another for ridiculous amounts of money. The internet isn't meant to be a pawn shop for stolen wisdom! Luckily for all of us, we have the power to reclaim this narrative by telling our stories fearlessly and on our own terms, whether they are about birth or the regrets we have regarding where we've spent our time on the internet ;). Stories really are so very powerful. Thank you again for sharing yours (and congratulations on your new baby!).

With love,

Kaitlin

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